Ben Cove has attracted media attention on several occasions with his ironic, iconic imagery. New Plastic Universal, his solo show at the Castlefield Gallery in Manchester last year, was the Guardian Guide pick of the week. Colin Hambrook asked Ben how he felt about taking his work out of the gallery and directly to the people as part of NWDAFs TransART project.
BC: I like to question the role of the gallery in my painting, so showing the process in the form of an 8 minute film and taking that directly to an audience was an exciting and challenging progression. It gave me the opportunity to give background information and answer questions directly to audiences who weren't necessarily versed in the language of art. The film showed me making two very large paintings during a 7 week artist's residency at Yorkshire ArtSpace in Sheffield. It has not been shown in public before this point so it was good to find out that people got something from it. The film is essentially documentation and has no dialogue or explanatory narration, which has perhaps held me back from submitting it for screening elsewhere.
It's still hard for me to judge the success of this work as a stand alone piece because people tend to react to what's being portrayed rather than to the formal qualities of the film. From the reactions I've had, I've learnt that for an audience the main focus tends to be on the ambitious nature of what's being shown. Whereas for me the purpose of making the film was to examine the role of the performance aspect of my painting process.
CH: You said in an interview with Duncan Higgins that you were interested in the way that filming of the art-making process changed Jackson Pollock's way of working. TransART is taking this further in the way you are directly communicating with your audience. Has the experience given you food for thought about your working practice?
BC: I waffled on about Pollock in the interview with Duncan Higgins because it is the first thing that springs to mind when I think about painters being filmed at work. It's a particularly interesting example of this phenomenon because the theory goes that this event marked the beginning of Pollock's slide into the abyss. Once his working method had been laid bare for all to see there wasn't much left to do with it I guess.
I am in no way putting myself up for any sort of comparison with
Action Jackson, but it was something I remember from TV as a child which struck a chord with me because it made me understand that painting didn't necessarily mean sitting in front of an easel with a pallet and set of brushes. I think one key reason for me making this film in the first place was because I had been filmed for TV the year before and asked to paint for the camera. This was such a bizarre experience, thinking that what I normally did in private had now been seen nationwide kind of freaked me out.
Even though the film that Channel 4 made was great, I think I wanted to do something myself to sort of redress the balance. I've always wanted to connect with a wide audience like most artists but this can sometimes be problematic with some types of work. I think that taking the film out and delivering seminars and workshops alongside it was great in terms of feeling you are directly communicating with people and getting positive responses. Occasionally though some criticism would be good!
CH: Has the video process helped clarify the paradox between what is art and what is work?
BC: I'm interested in the way that painting is work when it is being made, but becomes art as soon as it is a finished product on a gallery wall. In a sense documenting the painting process highlighted the importance of the processes in my work. Especially in this case where I didn't have enough time to finish the paintings during my 7 weeks at Yorkshire ArtSpace, but have ended up with a finished film of the process. Some of the work I'm currently developing is more process lead so it was certainly significant for the development of my practice.
CH: In the seminars, what sort of questions is coming back from the public? Do responses vary according to the context?
BC: Responses have certainly varied from venue to venue. We visited some very different places - primary schools through to foundation courses. This meant I had to present work and ideas to people with very different perceptions of the project. One day I would be talking to F.E. students and the next to people with learning disabilities.
This was a challenge because I'm so used to thinking about my practice in
art-world terms. It was a really good thing to do because it made me focus on the core of my work. Responses have been very good. I think sometimes it's enough for disabled people just to meet another disabled person who is working in the mainstream. No matter what they think of the work that's on display, just taking the work out to people is a positive gesture in itself.
Current exhibitions of Ben Cove's work
- Ben Cove's website
www.benjamincove.com
- Catapults and High Jinx
Group Show at the London Print Studio Gallery
7 May - 2 July
www.londonprintstudio.org.uk
- Chorlton Ees Art Trail
Sculpture Trail in Chorlton, Manchester - Ben's home town
21 May - 30 May
www.chorltonartsfestival.com
- ACME Studio residency
Ben will be undertaking a 2.5 year residency/ bursary at ACME Studio's fire station in London from April 2006.
http://www.acme.org.uk
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